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	<description>Musings from Prison of a Priest Falsely Accused</description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just read Fr Anthony&#039;s article.

I can endorse what he says about the TOTAL secrecy when priests are accused. There is a &#039;Star Chamber&#039; court who decides behind closed doors the whole case against a priest.
 
He is not allowed to face his accuser. He is not allowed to respond or defend himself. 

He is allowed to make a statement without having any knowledge of proceedings or of  what he has been accused. He can, if he can afford it, have a church lawyer.
I want to know why, if and it is a big if, there has been a criminal act why was it not taken to the appropriate civil authorities?
 
Can it be that the church feels itself to be above the law of the land?
 
Can it be that the church  takes no notice of civil safeguards as enshrined in the US Constitution such as limitations of time on accusations?
 
Can it be that we have reverted to the ugly days of The Star Chamber - or perhaps we really didn&#039;t stop trying people in secret and punishing them without due process under the law of the land, but rather made up our own little court system whereby innocent men are racked until they plead guilty.

*Star Chamber --- see Wikipedia for the whole article --&quot; Court sessions were held in secret, with no indictments, no right of appeal, no juries, and no witnesses. Evidence was presented in writing. Over time it evolved into a political weapon and became a symbol of the misuse and abuse of power ---&quot;

Further to Father Anthony&#039;s statement that he is glad he has survived the incident - praise God -but I know of one priest who has had strokes, heart attacks and is now in a care facility, a totally broken man - and he hadn&#039;t committed any crime.

My love and care in Christ, to all priest victims of this calumny.

From Elizabeth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just read Fr Anthony&#8217;s article.</p>
<p>I can endorse what he says about the TOTAL secrecy when priests are accused. There is a &#8216;Star Chamber&#8217; court who decides behind closed doors the whole case against a priest.</p>
<p>He is not allowed to face his accuser. He is not allowed to respond or defend himself. </p>
<p>He is allowed to make a statement without having any knowledge of proceedings or of  what he has been accused. He can, if he can afford it, have a church lawyer.<br />
I want to know why, if and it is a big if, there has been a criminal act why was it not taken to the appropriate civil authorities?</p>
<p>Can it be that the church feels itself to be above the law of the land?</p>
<p>Can it be that the church  takes no notice of civil safeguards as enshrined in the US Constitution such as limitations of time on accusations?</p>
<p>Can it be that we have reverted to the ugly days of The Star Chamber &#8211; or perhaps we really didn&#8217;t stop trying people in secret and punishing them without due process under the law of the land, but rather made up our own little court system whereby innocent men are racked until they plead guilty.</p>
<p>*Star Chamber &#8212; see Wikipedia for the whole article &#8211;&#8221; Court sessions were held in secret, with no indictments, no right of appeal, no juries, and no witnesses. Evidence was presented in writing. Over time it evolved into a political weapon and became a symbol of the misuse and abuse of power &#8212;&#8221;</p>
<p>Further to Father Anthony&#8217;s statement that he is glad he has survived the incident &#8211; praise God -but I know of one priest who has had strokes, heart attacks and is now in a care facility, a totally broken man &#8211; and he hadn&#8217;t committed any crime.</p>
<p>My love and care in Christ, to all priest victims of this calumny.</p>
<p>From Elizabeth</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Catholics we are taught never to lie but always &quot;tell the truth.&quot;  In today&#039;s world, however, it is also important to teach our children  never to talk to a detective, prosecutor, insurance company, the press, etc. WITHOUT A LAWYER.  

The truth can easily be manipulated and exploited by all those sharks swimming out there.  

Also,  excessive fines and judgments imposed by irresponsible juries fall under the prohibition of &quot;cruel and unusual punishment.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Catholics we are taught never to lie but always &#8220;tell the truth.&#8221;  In today&#8217;s world, however, it is also important to teach our children  never to talk to a detective, prosecutor, insurance company, the press, etc. WITHOUT A LAWYER.  </p>
<p>The truth can easily be manipulated and exploited by all those sharks swimming out there.  </p>
<p>Also,  excessive fines and judgments imposed by irresponsible juries fall under the prohibition of &#8220;cruel and unusual punishment.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannie Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 04:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Father.  I was going through my computer and came across a letter I never sent you after I&#039;d read an article by Dorothy Rabinowitz in the WSJ several years ago.  I was overtaken by a huge need to see what had entailed.  

Please do not think that your incarceration is without purpose. I&#039;m a practicing Catholic who sees as you do the shift we are having to undermine the Catholic faith, since it is the one faith that Communism abhors and fears.  

Right now things OUTSIDE of prison are beginning to take on signs of incarceration and paranoia for us as well.  Yet through it all, &#039;remember we are to serve&#039; is the response to keep ourselves from succumbing to the anger, anxiety and temptation to spiral into despair. Despair is not an option and your injustice IS affecting people and causing many to rethink the shallowness of their faith.

You are most dear to God&#039;s heart and you are courageous in your journey.

As for the claustrophobia, I  will pray so very hard that grace can lift that oppression from you.  And lastly, if John the Baptist could say, from prison, to be of good cheer, then I guess I&#039;m not blasphemous to remind you that humor IS so key, and may grace grant that to you as well.

God bless you and thank you, Father.

Jeannie Ash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Father.  I was going through my computer and came across a letter I never sent you after I&#8217;d read an article by Dorothy Rabinowitz in the WSJ several years ago.  I was overtaken by a huge need to see what had entailed.  </p>
<p>Please do not think that your incarceration is without purpose. I&#8217;m a practicing Catholic who sees as you do the shift we are having to undermine the Catholic faith, since it is the one faith that Communism abhors and fears.  </p>
<p>Right now things OUTSIDE of prison are beginning to take on signs of incarceration and paranoia for us as well.  Yet through it all, &#8216;remember we are to serve&#8217; is the response to keep ourselves from succumbing to the anger, anxiety and temptation to spiral into despair. Despair is not an option and your injustice IS affecting people and causing many to rethink the shallowness of their faith.</p>
<p>You are most dear to God&#8217;s heart and you are courageous in your journey.</p>
<p>As for the claustrophobia, I  will pray so very hard that grace can lift that oppression from you.  And lastly, if John the Baptist could say, from prison, to be of good cheer, then I guess I&#8217;m not blasphemous to remind you that humor IS so key, and may grace grant that to you as well.</p>
<p>God bless you and thank you, Father.</p>
<p>Jeannie Ash</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know of many priest who have been accused unjustly - some, as you mention, long after their deaths.
Please know that you are in my prayers.

Our parish supports a number of these priests by prayer and practical means and we see the suffering of those who live with these false allegations.

It is a great sorrow that so many in jobs of resposibility should have played judas.

On a more cheerful note - our priest says he is often stopped by people who just want to say &quot;thank you for being a priest&quot;. The laity know the truth of all this and they know their priests who have been loyal servants even though evil men have accused them falsly. Matthew 5-11.

I hope you are allowed a Bible and an office book ?

 Many blessings and prayers from  &#039;Me&#039; in Texas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know of many priest who have been accused unjustly &#8211; some, as you mention, long after their deaths.<br />
Please know that you are in my prayers.</p>
<p>Our parish supports a number of these priests by prayer and practical means and we see the suffering of those who live with these false allegations.</p>
<p>It is a great sorrow that so many in jobs of resposibility should have played judas.</p>
<p>On a more cheerful note &#8211; our priest says he is often stopped by people who just want to say &#8220;thank you for being a priest&#8221;. The laity know the truth of all this and they know their priests who have been loyal servants even though evil men have accused them falsly. Matthew 5-11.</p>
<p>I hope you are allowed a Bible and an office book ?</p>
<p> Many blessings and prayers from  &#8216;Me&#8217; in Texas</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Father, I hope that you continue to rely on the Lord and his mercy and love during your stay in prison. God Bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father, I hope that you continue to rely on the Lord and his mercy and love during your stay in prison. God Bless</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It struck me the other day how sin deprives us all of freedom this is particularly true in the abuse situation:innocent victims lost the freedom of childhood innocence too soon; falsely accused priests have lost reputation and in some cases their liberty; adults are wary of showing pure affection in case it is interpreted as &quot;grooming&quot; behaviour 

The polluting darkness of sin has darkened our landscape.In these darkened times I try to focus on Pentecost and how the Apostles were feeling frightened and overwhelmed because they thought Christ was dead and buried. 

Then the Holy Spirit entered the room and they were filled with courage and given all the necessary gifts to survive and thrive amidst the corrupt and brutal Roman Empire. That Holy Spirit remains with us today and it can be seen shining in the extraordinary courage and fidelity of people like yourself Father. Even if there are times when I might not be able to comment because of my carer duties you shall always remain in my daily prayers especially in this Year of the Priest. God bless you now and always</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It struck me the other day how sin deprives us all of freedom this is particularly true in the abuse situation:innocent victims lost the freedom of childhood innocence too soon; falsely accused priests have lost reputation and in some cases their liberty; adults are wary of showing pure affection in case it is interpreted as &#8220;grooming&#8221; behaviour </p>
<p>The polluting darkness of sin has darkened our landscape.In these darkened times I try to focus on Pentecost and how the Apostles were feeling frightened and overwhelmed because they thought Christ was dead and buried. </p>
<p>Then the Holy Spirit entered the room and they were filled with courage and given all the necessary gifts to survive and thrive amidst the corrupt and brutal Roman Empire. That Holy Spirit remains with us today and it can be seen shining in the extraordinary courage and fidelity of people like yourself Father. Even if there are times when I might not be able to comment because of my carer duties you shall always remain in my daily prayers especially in this Year of the Priest. God bless you now and always</p>
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		<title>By: Ros</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Father. Our Lady brought me to your site I am sure. I started to pray the Rosary daily this year and immediately felt led to pray for Priests. 

I wonder if you can sense her presence in your cell? I offer your  intentions daily in my Rosary. Please listen out for your heavenly Mother, she is waiting for you, her Priest.

She is aware of your deep inner need for emotional comfort. Draw from her immaculate heart as you need to. It has been pierced with sorrow more than any other human heart, apart from Our Lord&#039;s. She is waiting for you Father, I truly believe this. God bless you Father, you are not forgotten, always keep that fact in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father. Our Lady brought me to your site I am sure. I started to pray the Rosary daily this year and immediately felt led to pray for Priests. </p>
<p>I wonder if you can sense her presence in your cell? I offer your  intentions daily in my Rosary. Please listen out for your heavenly Mother, she is waiting for you, her Priest.</p>
<p>She is aware of your deep inner need for emotional comfort. Draw from her immaculate heart as you need to. It has been pierced with sorrow more than any other human heart, apart from Our Lord&#8217;s. She is waiting for you Father, I truly believe this. God bless you Father, you are not forgotten, always keep that fact in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Regina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are so many that are the &quot;losers&quot; here... the priests accused falsely, the priests held under &quot;the gun&quot; as it were because simply, they are a priest and at one time, just wait for it, they must have abused someone... 

the real victims of abuse by priests and the victims of the sin of greed- falsely accusing because there is easy money. And we suffer, too, the parishioners, the laity- the ones who pray and feel frustrated and helpless to help, really- and the bishops who betray their filial love for their fellow priests, passing judgment without fair trial- what will be the consequences of this, both for themselves now and in the hereafter?

It is an evil come upon us, for sure.

Take care, Father- know that I pray for you every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are so many that are the &#8220;losers&#8221; here&#8230; the priests accused falsely, the priests held under &#8220;the gun&#8221; as it were because simply, they are a priest and at one time, just wait for it, they must have abused someone&#8230; </p>
<p>the real victims of abuse by priests and the victims of the sin of greed- falsely accusing because there is easy money. And we suffer, too, the parishioners, the laity- the ones who pray and feel frustrated and helpless to help, really- and the bishops who betray their filial love for their fellow priests, passing judgment without fair trial- what will be the consequences of this, both for themselves now and in the hereafter?</p>
<p>It is an evil come upon us, for sure.</p>
<p>Take care, Father- know that I pray for you every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Karin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Father it isn&#039;t about protecting children~it&#039;s about killing the priesthood. (I know that was a rhetorical question~sorry couldn&#039;t help myself)
My prayers for you continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Father it isn&#8217;t about protecting children~it&#8217;s about killing the priesthood. (I know that was a rhetorical question~sorry couldn&#8217;t help myself)<br />
My prayers for you continue.</p>
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